Is it a podcast or is it cake?

First, Everyone & Their Mom host Emma Eun-joo Choi and producer Jennifer Mills stop by to check in after another weird week: We mark two years since the world was shut down by COVID, ask about The Slap that just won’t stop generating “hot” takes, and discuss whether we really need a show like Is It Cake?.

Then, Dylan Marron tells us about his new book Conversations with People Who Hate Me, a distillation of lessons he learned while making his podcast of the same title.

Plus, Jen Rose Smith tells us about her article that explores the future of the travel guide in book form.

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A NOTE FROM GRETA & ANNA

Hi Nerd! I’m very happy to report I’m back in America and COVID-free. Thanks to all of you who sent your well-wishes. Recovery is slow but at least I’m home! Here are some bright spots from my week that you might like too:

Y’all probably know I love carrots in all forms. But this roasted carrot situation is phenomenal, especially in terms of effort to flavor ratio!
If you like secrets and space, then I highly recommend Rebecca Scherm’s A House Between Earth and the Moon, out now!
And if you live in or near Chicago, here’s a chance to win tickets to see Fran Lebowitz (and me)!

And here are some notions from Anna, our producer!

Here are some blondies to eat after making Greta’s carrots. They have browned butter AND peanut butter.
Let’s all pour one out for the planet Saturn, which is slowly losing its rings. Who knew that could happen?
And this flamingo is iconic.

Talk to you next week,